On January 12, 2007 Google has stopped indexing Uruknet.info as a news source We wrote to Google News and this is their reply: Thank you for your message. We apologize for the confusion, we've reviewed your site again and are unable to include it in Google News at this time. They are unable? and for which reason? Of course there isn’t any technical reason, because Google.news have been indexing Uruknet up to five days ago and although old pages are still available, there has been no update since then. The only "technical reason" is censorship.We rewrote to Google.news and their reply was even more cryptic: Although we're unable to provide specific information at this time, we sincerely appreciate your interest in Google News and your willingness to provide us with your content. (...) This isn't the first time that Google discontinues indexing Uruknet. On February 18, 2005, Google.news removed Uruknet.info as a news source, apparently thanks to Michelle Malkin's protestations only to reinstate them - following many complaints sent in by our readers (...) As our readers know, we never carried out campaigns neither for fund-raising nor for any other kind of aid. Although we’ve been able to provide, in spite of sacrifice, for maintenance and safeguard of Uruknet and mirroring websites, and although we succeeded, notwithstanding such a great deal of problems, to face all damages caused by hacking attacks, now Google’s censorship risks to be a blow too hard to ward off. We therefore kindly request our readers to write to Google asking Uruknet.info to be reinstated as a news source....
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Action Alert! Google did it again! (Updated: Google's reply. Kind of!)
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January 20, 2006
On January 12, 2007 Google has stopped indexing Uruknet.info as a news source
(The latest Uruknet article included in the Google News index is Iraqi Children "Play" Civil War, January 12, 2007).
We wrote to Google News and this is their reply:
Hi Vincenzo,
Thank you for your message. We apologize for the confusion, we've reviewed your site again and are unable to include it in Google News at this time. We appreciate your willingness to provide your articles to us, and we will log your site for future consideration.
Thank you for your interest in Google News.
They are unable? and for which reason? Of course there isn’t any technical reason, because Google.news have been indexing Uruknet up to five days ago and although old pages are still available, there has been no update since then. The only "technical reason" is censorship.
We rewrote to Google.news and their reply was even more cryptic:
Thank you for your note. Although we're unable to provide specific information at this time, we sincerely appreciate your interest in Google News and your willingness to provide us with your content. Please be assured that we'll keep your site on file should we be able to crawl it in the future.
Thanks again for taking the time to contact us.
Regards,
The Google Team
Of course, it is a lie: In our logs it seems that you still crawl Uruknet, but the articles do not appear on Google.news.
We re-rewrote to Google.news and we didn’t get any answer at all. We ignore the reason for which Google has manipulated the rankings for Uruknet , but we think the exclusion of alternative media through search engines results is government/corporate tactics to harness the free flow of information on the Internet. Being banned by Google.news is obviously a serious threat to a news website's existence.
This isn't the first time that Google discontinues indexing Uruknet. On February 18, 2005, Google.news removed Uruknet.info as a news source, apparently thanks to Michelle Malkin's protestations only to reinstate them - following many complaints sent in by our readers.
On June 4, 2005 both Google.com and Google.news dropped Uruknet again without explanation: and in this case too Google reinstated Uruknet only because of complaint messages from our readers.
We must add that Google’s censorship unintentionally occurs in a particularly critical period for our website. Uruknet has been under hacking attacks since September 2005. These attacks increase whenever there are important events from Iraq. Since this past summer, when a great number of attacks were carried out against Uruknet, we have been moving our servers and spending lots of time, money and energies in order to prevent these attacks and to repair the damages. Since the assassination of the Iraqi President Saddam Hussein, the attacks have increased again and last week they managed to destroy our main server and other servers we use for mirroring websites.
As our readers know, we never carried out campaigns neither for fund-raising nor for any other kind of aid. Although we’ve been able to provide, in spite of sacrifice, for maintenance and safeguard of Uruknet and mirroring websites, and although we succeeded, notwithstanding such a great deal of problems, to face all damages caused by hacking attacks, now Google’s censorship risks to be a blow too hard to ward off.
We therefore kindly request our readers to write to Google asking Uruknet.info to be reinstated as a news source.
Please, send your complaints to google.news! Click here to fill a speedy form.

Update
A few hours ago, we asked our readers to send their complaint messages to " source-suggestions@google.com "
Now google.news claims that the address source-suggestions@google.com is no longer active. When one of our readers sends google.news a complaint letter for having stopped indexing uruknet,
he receives the following automated response from google:
----- Original Message -----
From: news-feedback@google.com
To: pao**si@tin.it
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: [#102548054] Complain for removing www.uruknet.info from google.news
Thank you for your note about Google News. This is an automated response
to let you know that we appreciate your interest and feedback. Please note
that this email address is no longer active.
To further assist our users, we've created a Google News Help Center,
where you can search or browse all of our available support information.
Our Help Center is located at http://www.google.com/support/news/
If you're a news publisher, please visit our Publisher Help Center at
http://www.google.com/support/news_pub where you'll find extensive,
up-to-date information and solutions.
But four days ago google.news did reply us from the same email address: so on 16 January 2006 the address " source-suggestions@google.com " surely was active.
Messaggio Originale --------
Oggetto: Re: [#81255140] Re-inserting uruknet.info into google-news
*Data: * *Tue, 16 Jan 2007 11:24:43 -0800*
*Da: * *Google Help source-suggestions@google.com*
A: enzo@uruknet.eu
Hi Vincenzo,
Thank you for your message. We apologize for the confusion, we've reviewed your site again and are unable to include it in Google News at this time. We appreciate your willingness to provide your articles to us, and we will log your site for future consideration.
Thank you for your interest in Google News.
Regards,
The Google Team
-------- Messaggio Originale -------- Oggetto: Re: [#81255140] Re-inserting uruknet.info into google-news
Data: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 17:45:05 -0800
Da: Google Help source-suggestions@google.com
A: enzo@uruknet.eu
Hi Vincenzo,
Thank you for your note. Although we're unable to provide specific information at this time, we sincerely appreciate your interest in Google News and your willingness to provide us with your content. Please be assured that we'll keep your site on file should we be able to crawl it in the future.
Thanks again for taking the time to contact us.
Regards,
The Google Team
We therefore strongly suspect that google.news "source-suggestions@google.com" has put a filter on the word "uruknet".
We made some test, and we made sure that if someone sends
to source-suggestions@google.com an email message
without the word "uruknet", google news doesn't reply that the address is inactive.
Please click here to send your complaints to google.news.
SECOND UPDATE
February 6, 2007
While Google News continues its censorship against Uruknet, we had another surreal e-mail exchange with Google News’ staff. We would have liked to make this public only after a definitive reply from Google but we start to believe this reply will never come. This is the latest, surreal exchange with Google News.
On 23 January 2007 Google finally replied to our email on the banning of Uruknet from Google News ( http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m29907 )
-------- Messaggio Originale --------
Oggetto: Re: [#81255140] Re-inserting uruknet.info into google-news
Data: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 15:48:53 -0800
Da: Google Help
A: enzo@uruknet.eu
Hi Vincenzo,
Thank you for sharing your concern. As you may know, we currently only include articles from sources that could be considered organizations, generally characterized by the following: multiple writers and editors, availability of organizational information, and accessible contact information. This evidence of an organization is still not available on your site.
We appreciate your interest in Google News.
Regards,
The Google Team
We had already received this very same email on November 7 2006, when we wrote to Google about our new server and provider, following the many hackers attacks we were experiencing . At the time we had to change server and provider because of the many hackers attacks we were experiencing and just for a few days Google couldn’t index Uruknet so we wrote to Google about our new server. At the beginning Google probably had not understood what the problem was and replied with what it seems a standard note.
-------- Messaggio Originale --------
Oggetto: Re: [#81255140] Re-inserting uruknet.info into google-news
Data: Tue, 07 Nov 2006 22:23:36 -0800
Da: Google Help
A: enzo@uruknet.eu
Hi Vincenzo,Thank you for your note. We've reviewed www.uruknet.info and are unable toinclude it in Google News. We currently only include articles from sourcesthat could be considered organizations, generally characterized bymultiple writers and editors, availability of organizational information,and accessible contact information. When we reviewed your site we weren'table to find this evidence of an organization.We appreciate your willingness to provide your articles to us, and we'lllog your site for future consideration.Regards,The Google Team
Of course this is not true since Google News includes unknown blogs written by just one author and websites where the owner is not specified. Uruknet has all the requirements specified by Google and we had already replied re-sending the data Google had asked and Google restarted immediately to index again Uruknet. At the time we think there was no will of censorship by Google, simply a misunderstanding; Google’s stuff probably thought Uruknet wanted to be indexed for the first time when Uruknet had been already included by Google News for years. We simply had communicated to Google Uruknet had changed server. At this point, the information we sent to Google are judged by Google correct and exhaustive and Google restarted immediately to index Uruknet.
-------- Messaggio Originale --------
Oggetto: Re: [#81255140] Re-inserting uruknet.info into google-news
Data: Thu, 09 Nov 2006 15:10:59 -0800
Da: Google Help
A: enzo@uruknet.eu
Hi Vincenzo,
Thank you for your reply and for providing us with this additional information about your site. We've reviewed your site again and will be adding it to our index for Google News. You should be able to find your articles in Google News within a few weeks. While we'll strive to include as many of your news articles as possible, please be aware that we can't guarantee the inclusion of your content in Google News.
Thank you for providing your articles to Google News.
In reality Google News restarts to index Uruknet since the next day and till January 12th when Google decides to censor our website. As we have already explained, after we sent several emails Google replied with the same email we had already received on 7 November 2007, asking us once again (!) the same information we had already sent to Google two months earlier and that Google had accepted without any problems. At this point we didn’t know what to think. We again re-sent all the information and all the e-mails between Uruknet and Google.
-------- Messaggio Originale --------
Oggetto: Re: [#81255140] Re-inserting uruknet.info into google-news
Data: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 12:08:31 +0100
Da: Uruknet Enzo
Rispondi-a: enzo@uruknet.eu
Organizzazione: uruknet
A: Google Help
Referenze: <#14.4d7dae4.83a7e64c.45b69ee5.1@google.trakken.com>
We already received this same e-mail from you on November 9, 2006;
we answered with the following email [enclosed], and afterwards you re-inserted uruknet in the news.
If you click on "contact" on our web-site, you see our contact information.
Best regards
Vincenzo Viscuso.
This time Google replies immediately and… sends us (again!!!) the same e-mail for the third time:
-------- Messaggio Originale --------
Oggetto: Re: [#81255140] Re-inserting uruknet.info into google-news
Data: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:13:44 -0800
Da: Google Help
A: enzo@uruknet.eu
Hi Vincenzo,
Thank you for your reply. We deeply apologize for the confusion surrounding this matter. We currently characterize organizations by multiple writers and editors, availability of organizational information, and accessible contact information. As we mentioned previously, we were unable to find any kind of information about your organization anywhere on your site.
Thanks again for taking the time to write.
Regards,
The Google Team
Once again we send to Google (and three!) the information we have been (once again) asked. We didn’t receive any reply. At this point we email again Google:
-------- Messaggio Originale --------
Oggetto: Re: [#81255140] Re-inserting uruknet.info into google-news
Data: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 10:47:07 +0100
Da: Uruknet Enzo
Rispondi-a: enzo@uruknet.eu
Organizzazione: uruknet
A: source-suggestions@google.com
I wonder if you do not understand, or if you are taking joke of us.
You wrote us for three times the same identical sentence,
apparently without reading our explanations.
1) Our Organization is called ASSOCIAZIONE URUKNET - c/o TEV - VIA SAULI
9 - 20127 MILANO MI (ITALY).
2) Its President is Mrs. Paola Pisi, Via dei Ramni 24, Rome, Italy.
You can find such information in the website and in the whois information.
Please, tell us how would you like that such information appear.
There are hundreds of sources in google-news not respecting your wishes,
but Uruknet, instead, is according to them.
Please re-activate uruknet in Google-news as soon as possibile.
Best regards,
Vincenzo Viscuso.
webmaster of www.uruknet.info
Google at this point replies. Now it’s not the organization to be missing but the "contact information". Strange, the contact information of Uruknet is very well visible on our website.
-------- Messaggio Originale --------
Oggetto: Re: [#81255140] Re-inserting uruknet.info into google-news
Data: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 12:08:00 -0800
Da: Google Help
A: enzo@uruknet.eu
Hi Vincenzo,
Thank you for sending us your site's contact information again. Please be assured that we have read all of your emails and we understand your concern about this matter. In order to be included in Google News, your contact information must be available on your site. To avoid any confusion, please send us the URL at which this information is available on your site.
Thanks again for your patience and for your continued interest in Google News.
Regards,
The Google Team
Again (and again, and again!) we sent to Google the information requested.
-------- Messaggio Originale --------
Oggetto: Re: [#81255140] Re-inserting uruknet.info into google-news
Data: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 13:20:51 +0100
Da: Uruknet Enzo
Rispondi-a: enzo@uruknet.eu
Organizzazione: uruknet
A: Google Help
The information is available in "CONTACT", obviously, since ever.
The BUTTON "CONTACT" is available both in the "light" home page and in
the ordinary page.
http://www.uruknet.info/contatto.html
We just added also the VAT number, as of a new italian law.
We hope that this requirement be the last.
Regards.
Vincenzo Viscuso
Google hasn’t replied yet but who knows, maybe this time we’ll be told that Google can’t include Uruknet because… its colors?
Stay tuned!
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| Comment pos ted: by noelecain on 21 Jan 2007 - 03:46 | No doubt Google is USA based. I live in Australia. I am a Christian and am ast ounded by the excesses of the Islamic world. I am also astounded by the fanatic al machinations of so called Christians in the USA. Particularly in the Southern States of the USA. The death penalty is an abomination sunk in revenge and ign orance. Now if I wish to access Uruknet for my own edification then I will. If Google chooses to attempt to deny my access, then I will judge Google accordingly. I am in charge of ,my life and if I choose to access a certain site in cyberspace, I will with or without Google. Google y ou have gone down in my opinion.
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| Comment pos ted: by kate bates on 21 Jan 2007 - 04:59 | I will be mailing my complaint to google tomorrow, but wish to thank you for you r much appreciated efforts to publish the news that is unavailable to me anywher e else (as an american)..
I rely on you because you have an excellent track record for printing the truth and countering some of the most blatant propaganda that I have been exposed to.
Please keep up the struggle for the world is a much darker place without the tru th to illuminate our paths.
Peace to you, and my brothers & sisters in Iraq, Palestine and everywhere else t here is injustice. |
| Comment pos ted: by blufx1963 on 21 Jan 2007 - 20:14 | | I would not take it to heart, that google does not want to index you. They are not the only means people search for information. I found your site with MSN, f or example. I personally, do not use google. They are in it for the money only . I wonder if the people who use google are j****h, or something. This would e xplain their reluctance to index your news. EWJ |
| Comment pos ted: by fad on 21 Jan 2007 - 20:50 | This banning is the sign assured me that this site is telling true news.
The freedom of world media has been jeopardized by the political and finantial p ower and now they are trying to shape the internet in the same way of US,s big m edia companies by telling the news that America wants to hear , not the true new s.
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| Comment pos ted: by davidedwards on 21 Jan 2007 - 21:31 | Reject censorship of the news! Let Google know what you think!
??????uruknet.de/protesta-google.php |
| Comment pos ted: by 2_4ghz on 22 Jan 2007 - 22:04 | Hello,
I have just started to skim the surface of your site. The main reason
I am here is because CENSORSHIP of any kind sucks. As one of the other
commenter's pointed out, you are telling the truth as it is,as you see it. Can't let the sheeple in the USA see or hear the truth. It's easier telling them lies and letting them go about their lives like a mushroom.
You know,, kept in the dark and fed s**T.
Keep the truth coming, its what some of us want.
Ed from the U.S. |
| Comment pos ted: by angie tibbs on 23 Jan 2007 - 14:25 | I was directed to Uruknet by a friend in late 2005, and I consider it the best a nd most courageous newsletter on line. I can understand Google having a problem with this -- the truth scares the sheep of the world. As I don't use Google in any event I would never have known about this without being advised of same.
To the good and brave people at Uruknet keep fighting! You are providing us wit h the real news -- and that, of course, makes those who doesn't want us to know the truth, very nervous.
I've sent along my comments to Google. It is way past time independent minded p eople world wide ignored Google from henceforth. It is not nearly as important as it thinks it is.
To Uruknet -- keey up the excellent work! You have credibility, honesty, courag e. Google has -- what? |
| Comment pos ted: by jean on 23 Jan 2007 - 19:32 | | Reading Uruknet on a daily basis since 2004, I feel totally unmoved by Google Ne ws' decision. Google News is only an occasional target of mine and their move is a demonstration of censorship, which should be more damaging to them than it is to Uruknet. Although not a competer from the structure, there can be no doubt a bout, which of the sources delivers more honest reporting from the Arab World. In the times of World-Wide Censorship, we even have to work a bit more for keeping informed of what is really happening. For that purpose, I need (among other sources) Uruknet |
| Comment pos ted: by rowland on 09 Feb 2007 - 09:59 | I send following personalized e-mail to google, with my gmail adres ;-)
"Recently Google has stopped indexing one source of very topical news on its web site. I have never suspected Google of censoring nor search-engine or google-new s. Surely freedom of speech means that inhabitant of countries where this right applies should have access to all information published on the world wide web. W hen it comes to the war in Iraq and the current decisions and the discussions in the USA about the deployment of extra troops I would like to review all possible information on the subject.
Uruknet is listed as a result in your search engine. But after years of being av ailable in Google News this service now stopped recently. Possibly due to misund erstandings in the communication with its providers and owners.
I claim the right to know what's happening in Iraq in an efficient manner like G oogle-News, especially at this critical moment in time. Not listing this site fo r over 3 weeks now reeks like censorship to me.
Best regards,
Roland"
I wonder if, when and what they will reply...
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