We, like many other websites, posted a video allegedly showing the aftermath of an IDF air strike on a Gaza market. The video turned out to be disinformation: it was not shot three days ago, as indicated by the link, and has nothing to do with the current conflict. It is actually from 2005. It was taken in the Jabalya refugee camp in the northern Gaza Strip, when a pickup truck carrying homemade rockets detonated by mistake during a Hamas rally. Our apologies to our readers.
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Apologies: Video of Carnage in Gaza Market is a hoax
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Here is a side by side of the video posted and a photo from 2005.
Jan 4, 2009
We, like many other websites, posted a video allegedly showing the aftermath of an IDF air strike on a Gaza market. The video turned out to be disinformation: it was not shot three days ago, as indicated by the link, and has nothing to do with the current conflict. It is actually from 2005. It was taken in the Jabalya refugee camp in the northern Gaza Strip, when a pickup truck carrying homemade rockets detonated by mistake during a Hamas rally. Our apologies to our readers.
From Wake Up From Your Slumber
I regret that I was deceived by the video I grabbed and uploaded for propagation in the original post "Israel bombs a civilian market (GRAPHIC Video)".
Please allow me to explain. The video in question made its initial appearance on LiveLeak with the upload date January 1st. It claims to be connected to IDF strike in the recent conflict with the header "RAW (Graphic): Scene After IDF Attack In Gaza 1/1/09". This turned out to be a very inaccurate and misleading claim. Someone, likely a pro-Israel right-winger (judging his attitude rebutting criticism of Israel's response to Hamas/Gaza reminiscent of Little Green Footballs fan who sought to "minimize" the horror as reflected in reddit comment history), posted a detailed comment on Reddit that debunked the claim. Here is what the debunker by the reddit username TW9zc2Fk (who has been a registered user for only a week) said: ___________________ Hi there cyberdogg2, you might want to read my comment over here. Just a few problems with this: The video was recorded on September 23rd 2005, not 1st January 2009 The scene is not a civilian marketplace, it is from the Jabalya refugee camp in the north of the Gaza Strip The video does not depict the aftermath of an IDF air strike, it depicts the aftermath of the explosion of a pick-up truck carrying Qassam rockets during a Hamas rally (that explains the large number of Hamas personnel present immediately after the explosion, the miniature Hamas flags, etc.) At least 15 Palestinians were killed and dozens injured in the blast, many of whom were Hamas security personnel either in or around the pick-up truck (that explains all the wounded in military uniforms) The copy of the video you are actively distributing has been edited. The original video supposedly showed the Hamas pick-up truck (visible for a split-second at the start of your edited version) exploding, whereas your version cuts from an image of the pick-up beforehand to the immediate aftermath Despite Hamas' attempts to pin the detonation on Israeli aircraft they claim were flying overhead at the time, eyewitnesses reported no engagement by the aircraft, the cause was established to be mishandling of the Qassam rockets, and Israel denied all involvement
I kindly suggest you now take whatever action you can to stop spreading this video as misinformation about Israel's operations in the Gaza Strip at present. News articles: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4276458.stm http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/09/23/world/main881068.shtml http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/09/23/news/israel.php * * * THIS VIDEO IS MISLEADING The video was not taken on January 1st 2009. It was not taken in a civilian market, and it was not the result of an IDF air strike. This video is from September 23rd 2005, and was taken in the Jabalya refugee camp in the northern Gaza Strip. A Hamas pick-up truck carrying Qassam rockets detonated by mistake during a Hamas rally, leaving at least 15 killed and dozens more injured. The pick-up truck in question is visible for a split-second at the start of the video. The section of the video showing the pick-up exploding has been edited out. The large number of Hamas personnel present, the number of injured in military uniform, the large number of civilians and Hamas flags all over the place confirm this. Compare the video from 4:08-4:24 with this photograph taken after the blast at the rally. In the background of the video the man shown in the white top in this photo is clearly visible tending to one of the casualties. Another person is shown coming over to him and placing the distinctive purple/green striped blanket over the body laying next to him, and the wooden pole he is knelt next to is visible. The man in the white top is visible once again in this photograph (from this CBS News article) along with the man in a yellow shirt with serious leg injuries visible at around 3:55 in the video A side-by-side comparison of a frame from the video at ~4:08 and the aforementioned photo from the CBS News article is here. News articles about the actual incident depicted in this video: Palestinians killed in Gaza blast - At least 15 Palestinians have been killed and scores injured in a blast during a parade by the militant Hamas group in the Gaza Strip. A truck carrying gunmen and home-made weapons blew up during the rally in the Jabaliya refugee camp in northern Gaza. Israel has denied involvement, while the ruling Palestinian Fatah faction said it held Hamas responsible. [...] An unnamed witness was quoted by Reuters news agency as saying "I was thrown several metres, then I looked behind and I saw people dismembered and lying on the ground dead." [...] — BBC News Gaza: Blast during Hamas rally kills 19 - At least 19 Palestinians were killed and some 80 more were injured Friday from an explosion that occurred during a Hamas rally at the Jabalya refugee camp in north Gaza. While the Palestinian Interior Ministry has reported that 19 people died in the blast, hospitals said that at least 10 people were killed. Some of those killed were Hamas members, and the rest were citizens, among them two children, who took part in the rally. The Palestinian Interior ad National Security Ministry said that according to eyewitness accounts the blast occurred inside a vehicle carrying Qassam rockets and was not the result of IDF fire. A videotape of the rally showed a jeep blowing up, followed by images of people running for safety. [...] — Ynetnews ___________________ Because I am interested in nothing but the whole truth, after I examined his claim with proofs provided, I was forced to concede the video is misleading and had to apologize for the mistake in unintentional deception of the public. The video is very real but the header and description that claims IDF strike that maimed and killed the victims is, regretfully, totally misleading that have nothing to do with the current conflict. The correct header to reflect accuracy should be "September 23 2005 HAMAS Rally Explosion Aftermath". The video, upon closer examination, was deliberately edited to maximize propaganda by deception (split second footage of Hamas soldier on truck at the very start then cut to carnage, not providing the true context). I should not have jumped to the conclusion. I was bamboozled. Let everyone you know who has seen the video of the error.
See also:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3b3_1230864719
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| Comment by remotb - 05 Jan 2009 - 09:36 [USER NOT REGISTERED] | i;m a first time reader, so i dont really know you or your previously published posts.
Its important to know out limitations and be honest. its important to admit you; ve been wrong and to apologize for that. but i question kept humming in my head: Although its great that you checked and rechecked the claims of that Israeli-Ri ght-Winger dude(he's biased, after all), you never thought about checking the vi deo. It's a well known fact the Palestinians often "change" facts and stage incidents(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palywood) and still you chose to automatically believe the video.
maybe you reached the same conclusions as i did here. maybe not. anyway, its imp ortant that you check within you for the reasons. |
| Comment by chasidot - 05 Jan 2009 - 09:48 [USER NOT REGISTERED] | | You write "has nothing to do with the current conflict ... a pickup truck carryi ng homemade rockets". Surely, the fact that Hamas has been making (and firing) rockets has *everything* to do with the current conflict? |
| Comment by r.d - 05 Jan 2009 - 11:27 [USER NOT REGISTERED] | | Good job bamboozed moron. guess we shouldnt be coming back to listen to more you r lies then. |
| Comment by busspeed - 05 Jan 2009 - 12:22 [USER NOT REGISTERED] | | It happens to everyone. You're human, you make mistakes. Kudos for correcting yo urself and apologizing. |
| Comment by sinn - 05 Jan 2009 - 13:26 [USER NOT REGISTERED] | @ chasidot (Comments)
So if I pour gas on a house, and walk away, and 3 years later that house burns d own; Was I involved in burning the house down?
Thats the conclusion you're trying to make by stating Hamas' actions 3 years ago , creating bombs, somehow had something to do with the current day conflict. No w, if that was last week, I could understand, but its from September 2005. |
| Comment by postroad - 05 Jan 2009 - 13:36 [USER NOT REGISTERED] | | Nice that you admit that you were wrong. But you and so manyh others anxious to show the Israelis in a poor light that you grab at anything. Note that Palestini ans have many times in the past faked photos for propaganda purposes. Be careful when getting anti-Israli stuff. The war is horrible, granted, but you don't wan t to become a part of a propaganda campaign and serve one side at the expense of truth. |
| Comment by zam - 05 Jan 2009 - 15:17 [USER NOT REGISTERED] | My 2p is just that ppl need to calm down. Those in the middle east need to stop looking to kill each other, and those overseas need to stop blowing off wheneve r their personal sacred cow is attacked.
I have associated with people on both sides of this conflict, both displaced pal estinians, syrians, and been deployed with israeli IDF members. On the one side palestinians see no problem blowing up teenagers at malls and pizza joints, on the other the IDF members looked forward to "killing them before they get older and start killing us".
I'd have plenty of sympathy for the palestinian "refugees" (really ppl, there's more to that story than you like to think) if they'd keep their target selection restricted to military, government, and industrial locations.
I'd have plenty of sympathy for the israelis trying to keep the hordes surroundi ng their country from destroying it if they'd stop blowing away children on purp ose.
In both cases you have right and grievous wrong. I refuse to offer blanket supp ort to either side, they're both suffused with evil.
In this case, someone was making propaganda of an old film with lies attached to it to twist your thinking. That's bad. On the flip side, one street filled wi th bodies looks a lot like another and the IDF *does* do just that...blow up str eets full of civilians. That's also bad. Try not to defend someone based on BS ? or their opponent's asinine actions because some of that BS gets found out? pretty please? |
| Comment by zam - 05 Jan 2009 - 15:18 [USER NOT REGISTERED] | My 2p is just that ppl need to calm down. Those in the middle east need to stop looking to kill each other, and those overseas need to stop blowing off wheneve r their personal sacred cow is attacked.
I have associated with people on both sides of this conflict, both displaced pal estinians, syrians, and been deployed with israeli IDF members. On the one side palestinians see no problem blowing up teenagers at malls and pizza joints, on the other the IDF members looked forward to "killing them before they get older and start killing us".
I'd have plenty of sympathy for the palestinian "refugees" (really ppl, there's more to that story than you like to think) if they'd keep their target selection restricted to military, government, and industrial locations.
I'd have plenty of sympathy for the israelis trying to keep the hordes surroundi ng their country from destroying it if they'd stop blowing away children on purp ose.
In both cases you have right and grievous wrong. I refuse to offer blanket supp ort to either side, they're both suffused with evil.
In this case, someone was making propaganda of an old film with lies attached to it to twist your thinking. That's bad. On the flip side, one street filled wi th bodies looks a lot like another and the IDF *does* do just that...blow up str eets full of civilians. That's also bad. Try not to defend someone based on BS ? or their opponent's asinine actions because some of that BS gets found out? pretty please? |
| Comment by visatar - 05 Jan 2009 - 16:16 [USER NOT REGISTERED] | Everyone on both sides of this particular petty asian land dispute needs to chil l the f out. Who did what to who when is completely irrelevant to me, 95% of hu manity, the rising sea levels, the supervolcano that will one day permanently al ter life on this planet, and the asteroid that is already on an irrevocable coll ision course with the planet . The gods in whose name these sides fight do not exist, and you believe what you believe because your parents and peers believed the same when you were a child.
Have a nice day. |
| Comment by litho - 05 Jan 2009 - 21:02 [USER NOT REGISTERED] | Something to keep in mind when accusing the IDF of deliberately targeting civili ans. The IDF is a military force, and acts like a military force. Their military assets are maintained on military bases, not housed willy-nilly among the popul ace. But does Hamas bother to target military assets? No, they just randomly lau nch rockets into Isreal hoping to create as much mayhem and destruction as they can.
Meanwhile Hamas' weapons are not maintained on bases, but deliberately placed in populated areas, so that when the IDF targets these pseudo-military assests, ci vilians who are in the way are killed. It is completely facetious to accuse the IDF of deliberately targeting civilians. They take out military hardware. It is Hamas who doesn't care about civilians. It is Hamas who is deliberately targeting them. |
| Comment by ged baker - 05 Jan 2009 - 23:58 [USER NOT REGISTERED] | This video has been grtabbed upon in the arab world as evidence of a recent atro city. They really believe that this shows the aftermath of an IDF strike during the current conflict and no amount of apologies or explanations will now change their minds.
Any evidence of this footage being from 2005 (and there is footage of it being s hown on Iranian TV and video's posted in march 2008 available) is now dismissed as a zionist plot.
Perhaps people should be more careful of what they grab and verify it is what it claims to be before disseminating it. How many suicide bombers will this 'mista ke' have recruited? |
| Comment by geraldine - 06 Jan 2009 - 00:09 [USER NOT REGISTERED] | OK so the video was old--but was it also close to the bone---what is happening t oday--this minute--in Gaza which Israel is so careful not to allow us to see ? N o journalists at all allowed in, in spite of an Israeli High Court ruling.
Let us not ignore the fact that the Israeli government is continually guilty of disinformation and half-lies. Take the most recent example---Tipi Livni, Israeli foreign Minister, today made a lengthy speech about Israel's right to defend it self.
(As usual the Israel-friendly media gave her full coverage with no correction or rebuttal).
She conveniently did not allude to the right of the innocent population of Gaza not to be bombed and shelled and strafed by the Israeli army. Have these innocen t people no rights ?
At least 530 have been killed ( at least 100 were innocent women and children). At least 2500 people have been injured---many of them innocent women and childre n.
The wrongs done by Hamas ( was it 18 people killed over 8 years ?) do not permit Israel to commit even greater wrongs--mass murder.
The statement by Tipi Livni that Israel is doing all it can to avoid civilian ca sualities is not true----mass bombing and shelling into
crowded streets, mosques and hospitals is not "avoiding civilian casualties".
Another half-lie by Livni was her statement that Israel has been allowing humani tarian aid through. This had not happened when she was speaking, though later to day some relief trucks were finally allowed through----desperately needed food, water and medical suppplies----they had sat at the closed crossing for days.
The worst half-lie is the one Israel is most famous for---pretending that the en tire conflict and its causes are the fault of the unfortunate Palestinian people . Somehow "poor benevolent euro-focused Israel" is the guiltless victim. What a triumph of Israeli propaganda.
The fact is that Israel was granted a third of the land of Palestine originally, to give them a homeland, in 1948. There was no question of an Israeli state at first. Massacres of innocent Palestinian villagers by Israelis, and the driving out of villagers, caused the mass exodus by poor Palestinians to refugee camps w here they languished for years in desperate poverty and hardship. As years passed, Israel grabbed more land--often it was open theft, more often it was done by false documents or false claims in courts, or deliberate denying of Palestinian documentation, or denying centuries of settlement which for some was not recorded in land-deeds, as many Palestinians were semi-nomadic. Even Leon Uris ( a US Jewish novelist) in his gripping but biased book "Exodus" admits some of the facts of these village massacres and the driving out of the original Palestinian inhabitants.
I suggest that anyone who questions my statements here should read "The Ethnic C leansing Of Palestine" by Ilan Pappe ( renowned Israeli author and academic)---a very carefully researched and documented account.
Or maybe some of you out there think the Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank have an OK life, and would be fine if only Hamas would stop provoking Israel wit h rockets. How little you know of the reality of life in Palesine over the past 60 years, but much much worse this past 10 years.
Israel represses the population continually, destroys centuries-old olive-groves , the only source of income of many families, prevents access to work, and split s farms with its infamous Wall-Fence so that farmers find it virtually impossibl e to tend animals or any bit of farmland they still have ( read "The West Bank W all" by Ray Dolphin ).
Israel steals water which should be the property of Palestinians. All human righ ts are eroded daily. People are denied permission to buy or build---laws are wha t Israel invents at a whim --and access to the courts is usually denied or delay ed. Palestinians who live within Israel are discriminated against in every possi ble way, even to the extent of the bulldozing of houses----and I refer to the houses of ordinary innocent people who have not been associated in any way with any dissidents or terrorists (it is already well known that the homes of dissidents or terrorists are routinely demolished ).
I refer you to "An Israeli in Palestine" by a Jew, Jeff Halper, on illegal demol ition of homes.
Also you should read "The Other Side of Israel" a book by Susan Nathan, a London Jew who went to live in Israel but was horrified by the racism, theft, discrimi nation, violation of human rights etc (against Palestinians living in Israel) th at she found was the norm among Israelis.
Do you realise that Palestinian lands are now only a fraction of the land eventu ally allowed them by a UN decree (which Israel and its friends in the US forced through)?. From originally owning 95 % of the land, they now own less than a thi rd. It is the stated aim of many in Israel to drive out the Palestinians complet ely from all of "eretz Israel" ( that is, Israel at the time of Christ).
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| Comment by geraldine - 06 Jan 2009 - 00:21 [USER NOT REGISTERED] | OK so the video was old--but was it also close to the bone---what is happening t oday--this minute--in Gaza which Israel is so careful not to allow us to see ? N o journalists at all allowed in, in spite of an Israeli High Court ruling.
The Israeli government is continually guilty of disinformation and half-lies.
Example of half lies---Tipi Livni, Israeli foreign Minister, today made a speec h about Israel's right to defend itself.
She did not allude to the right of the innocent population of Gaza not to be bo mbed by the Israeli army. Have these innocent people no rights ?
At least 530 have been killed ( at least 100 were innocent women and children). At least 2500 people have been injured---many of them innocent women and childre n.
The wrongs done by Hamas do not permit Israel to commit even greater wrongs--mas s murder.
Mass bombing and shelling into crowded streets, mosques and hospitals is not "av oiding civilian casualties".
Another half-lie by Livni--Israel has been allowing humanitarian aid through. To day some trucks finally allowed through.
The worst half-lie is the one Israel is most famous for---pretending that the en tire conflict and its causes are the fault of the Palestinian people. and that I srael is the guiltless victim. What a triumph of Israeli propaganda.
In 1948 massacres of innocent Palestinian villagers by Israelis, and the driving out of villagers, caused the mass exodus by poor Palestinians to refugee camps where they languished for years in desperate poverty and hardship. As years pass ed, Israel grabbed more land--through open theft, or by by false documents or fa lse claims in courts, or deliberate denying of Palestinian documentation, or denying centuries of settlement.
Read "The Ethnic Cleansing Of Palestine" by Ilan Pappe (renowned Israeli author and academic ).
Israel represses the population continually, destroys centuries-old olive-groves , the only source of income of many families, prevents access to work, and split s farms with its infamous Wall-Fence so that farmers find it virtually impossibl e to tend animals or any bit of farmland they still have ( read "The West Bank W all" by Ray Dolphin ).
Israel steals water which should be the property of Palestinians. All human righ ts are eroded daily. People are denied permission to buy or build---laws are wha t Israel invents at a whim --and access to the courts is usually denied or delay ed. Palestinians who live within Israel are discriminated against in every possi ble way, even to the extent of the bulldozing of houses----and I refer to the houses of ordinary innocent people who have not been associated in any way with any dissidents or terrorists (it is already well known that the homes of dissidents or terrorists are routinely demolished ).
Read "An Israeli in Palestine" by a Jew, Jeff Halper, on illegal demolition of h omes.
Also you should read "The Other Side of Israel" a book by Susan Nathan, a London Jew who went to live in Israel but was horrified by the racism, theft, discrimi nation, violation of human rights etc against Palestinians living in Israel, tha t she found was the norm among Israelis.
Look at a map of Israel-Palestine---the small portion of land not yet stolen fro m the Palestinians has been ripped to bits by recent Israeli appropriation and b y the Wall and by illegal Israeli settlements.
The fact is that this bombing and horrific incursion into Gaza is happening as p art of the coming Israel election. The attack is to show the Israeli electorate that Tipi Livni and Ehud Barak and Co are as hawkish as Netanyahu. The attack is also partly due to the power of the IDF (Israeli Defence Force)who want revenge for their defeat by Hizbullah in Lebanon (during another disproportionate and overwhelming and murderous IDF campaign).
Perhaps you will decide that decades of harassment and repression and theft and enforced poverty and murder do not matter.
Some people do not want to see or hear the full story.
They are happy with the half-lies of Tipi Livni and others like her. "Rockets w ere being fired at us so we have the right to defend ourselves". That's it----ha lf of the story. A half-lie is the best kind of lie. |
| Comment by mike s - 06 Jan 2009 - 04:43 [USER NOT REGISTERED] | You deserve credit for acknowledging your error and posting it for all to see. It is refreshing to see someone big enough to admit to an error like this and re port it such that others are not mislead. However, you detract from this by att empting to minimize the person who pointed it out to you. His political orienta tion is irrelevant.
If you dispute TW9zc2Fk's political opinions, by all means let loose. But facts have the same value regardless of the source. By honoring facts and disputing opinions, you enhance your credibility and persuasiveness. |
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Hi there cyberdogg2, you might want to read my comment over here.
Just a few problems with this:
The video was recorded on September 23rd 2005, not 1st January 2009
The scene is not a civilian marketplace, it is from the Jabalya refugee camp in the north of the Gaza Strip
The video does not depict the aftermath of an IDF air strike, it depicts the aftermath of the explosion of a pick-up truck carrying Qassam rockets during a Hamas rally (that explains the large number of Hamas personnel present immediately after the explosion, the miniature Hamas flags, etc.)
At least 15 Palestinians were killed and dozens injured in the blast, many of whom were Hamas security personnel either in or around the pick-up truck (that explains all the wounded in military uniforms)
The copy of the video you are actively distributing has been edited. The original video supposedly showed the Hamas pick-up truck (visible for a split-second at the start of your edited version) exploding, whereas your version cuts from an image of the pick-up beforehand to the immediate aftermath
Despite Hamas' attempts to pin the detonation on Israeli aircraft they claim were flying overhead at the time, eyewitnesses reported no engagement by the aircraft, the cause was established to be mishandling of the Qassam rockets, and Israel denied all involvement
I kindly suggest you now take whatever action you can to stop spreading this video as misinformation about Israel's operations in the Gaza Strip at present.
News articles:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4276458.stm http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/09/23/world/main881068.shtml http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/09/23/news/israel.php
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