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GI Special 3C70: "Significant Risks And Little Return" - October 2, 2005


"I think the most frustrating thing is there's no sense of accomplishment," Williams said. "You're biding your time and waiting. But then you lose your friends, and it's not even for their own country's freedom." "We've been here almost seven months and we don't control" the cities, said Gunnery Sgt. Ralph Perrine, an operations chief in the battalion from Brunswick, Ohio. "It's no secret." "Their intelligence is better than ours," Owens said. "I had concerns that the operation was hastily planned and executed, with significant risks and little return," Toland said....


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GI Special 3C70: "Significant Risks And Little Return" - October 2, 2005

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GI Special 3C70: "Significant Risks And Little Return"

GI Special 3C70: "Significant Risks And Little Return"

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10.2.05

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GI SPECIAL 3C70:

 

 

THIS IS HOW BUSH BRINGS THE TROOPS HOME:

BRING THEM ALL HOME NOW

Master Sgt. Stephen Walter stands at attention as Marines line up to carry casket of Cpl. Andre Williams, who was killed in Iraq Aug. 6, 2005 in Columbus, Ohio. Williams was a member of Lima Company 3rd Battalion based in Columbus. (AP Photo/Kiichiro Sato)

 

 

One Marine Survives,

11 In His Squad Die:

"The Operation Was Hastily Planned And Executed, With Significant Risks And Little Return"

 

"I think the most frustrating thing is there's no sense of accomplishment," Williams said. "You're biding your time and waiting. But then you lose your friends, and it's not even for their own country's freedom."

 

"We've been here almost seven months and we don't control" the cities, said Gunnery Sgt. Ralph Perrine, an operations chief in the battalion from Brunswick, Ohio. "It's no secret."

 

"Their intelligence is better than ours," Owens said.

 

"I had concerns that the operation was hastily planned and executed, with significant risks and little return," Toland said.

 

Oct. 01, 2005 ANTONIO CASTANEDA, Associated Press

 

Associated Press reporter Antonio Castaneda spent three weeks in western Anbar province in Iraq with Marines in Lima Company, 3rd Battalion, 25th Regiment, 4th Division, earlier this year. He was with the unit when they led an offensive into the city of Haditha in late May. And he returned to the area after an August blast killed 14 Marines - and shortly before the unit began demobilizing to return to the United States by early October.

 

The ranks listed for the Marines were those they held when they were killed. Some of the men were promoted posthumously.

 

HADITHA DAM, Iraq - Cpl. David Kreuter had a new baby boy he'd seen only in photos. Lance Cpl. Michael Cifuentes was counting the days to his wedding. Lance Cpl. Nicholas Bloem had just celebrated his 20th birthday.

 

Travis Williams remembers them all - all 11 men in his Marine squad - all now dead.

 

Two months ago they shared a cramped room stacked with bunk beds at this base in northwest Iraq, where the Euphrates River rushes by. Now the room has been stripped of several beds, brutal testament that Lance Cpl. Williams' closest friends are gone.

 

For the 12 young Marines who landed in Iraq early this year, the war was a series of hectic, constant raids into more than a dozen lawless towns in Iraq's most hostile province, Anbar.

 

The pace and the danger bound them together into what they called a second family, even as some began to question whether their raids were making any progress.

 

Now, all of the Marines assigned to the 1st Squad, 3rd Platoon, Lima Company, 3rd Battalion, 25th Regiment, based in Columbus, Ohio, are gone - except Williams.

 

They died in a roadside-bomb set by insurgents on Aug. 3 that killed a total of 14 Marines. Most of the squad were in their early 20s; the youngest was 19.

 

"They were like a family. They were the tightest squad I've ever seen," said Capt. Christopher Toland of Austin, Texas, the squad's platoon commander. Even though many did not know each other before they got to Iraq, "They truly loved each other."

 

All that is left are photos and snippets of video, saved on dusty laptops, that run for a few dozen seconds. As they pack up to return home by early October, the Marines from Lima Company - including the squad's replacements - sometimes huddle around Williams' laptop in a room at the dam, straining to watch the few remaining moments of their young friends' lives. Some photos and videos carry the squad's adopted motto, "Family is Forever."

 

In one video, Lance Cpl. Christopher Dyer, who graduated with honors last year from a Cincinnati area high school, strums his guitar and does a mock-heartfelt rendition of "Puff the Magic Dragon" as his friends laugh around him.

 

In a photo, Kreuter rides a bicycle through a neighborhood, swerving under the weight of body armor and weapons, as Marines and Iraqis watch and chuckle.

 

Each video ends abruptly, leaving behind a blank screen. Some are switched off as soon as they start - some images just hurt too much to see right now.

 

********************************************************

 

The August operation began like most of the squad's missions - with a rush into another lawless Iraqi city to hunt insurgents and do house-to-house searches, sometimes for 12 hours in temperatures near 120 degrees.

 

On Aug. 1, six Marine snipers had been ambushed and killed in Haditha, one of a string of cities that line the Euphrates, filled with waving palm trees. Two days later, Marines in armored vehicles, including the 1st Squad, rumbled into the area to look for the culprits.

 

Like other cities in this region, Haditha has no Iraqi troops, and its police force was destroyed earlier in the year by a wave of insurgent attacks. Marines patrol roads on the perimeter and occasionally raid homes in the city, which slopes along a quiet river valley.

 

Since their arrival in February, the Marines had spent nearly all their time on such sweeps or preparing for them, sometimes hurrying back to their base to grab fresh clothes, then heading off again to cities that hadn't seen American or Iraqi troops in months.

 

The intense pace of the operations, and the enormous area their regimental combat team had to cover - an expanse the size of West Virginia - caught some off guard.

 

The combat was certainly not what the 21-year-old Williams had expected.

 

"I didn't ever think we'd get engaged," said the soft-spoken, stocky Marine from Helena, Mont. "I just had the basic view of the American public - it can't be that bad out there."

 

In some sweeps, residents warmly greeted the Marines.

 

But in others, such as operations in Haditha and Obeidi near the Syrian border, the squad members met gunfire and explosions.

 

In the Obeidi operation in early May, another squad from Lima Company suffered six deaths. Williams himself perhaps saved lives, once spotting a gunman hidden in a mosque courtyard, said Toland, the platoon commander.

 

The night before the Aug. 3 operation, an uneasy Toland couldn't sleep. Instead he spent his last night with his squad members talking and joking, trying to suppress worries the mission was too predictable for an enemy that knew how to watch and learn.

 

"I had concerns that the operation was hastily planned and executed, with significant risks and little return," Toland said.

 

The road had been checked by engineers and other units, Marine commanders say. But insurgents had been clever - hiding the massive bomb under the road's asphalt.

 

Several Humvees first drove over the bomb, but the triggerman in the distance apparently waited for a vehicle with more troops. Then, as the clanking sound of their armored vehicles neared, a massive blast erupted, caused by explosives weighing hundreds of pounds. It threw a 26-ton Amphibious Assault Vehicle into the air, leaving it burning upside-down.

 

The blast was so large that Toland and his radioman, Williams - traveling two vehicles ahead and not injured - thought their vehicle had been hit by a bomb. They scrambled out to inspect the damage, but instead found the blazing carnage several yards down the road.

 

A total of 14 Marines and one Iraqi interpreter were killed.

 

**************************************

 

There was no time for grieving - not at first. There was only sudden devastation, then intense anger as the Marines pulled the remains of their friends from the vehicle.

 

Then there was frustration, as they fanned out to find the triggerman.

 

Instead, they found only Iraqis either too sympathetic toward the insurgency, or too afraid, to talk.

 

Although the bomb had been planted in clear view of their homes, residents claimed they had seen nothing of the men who had spent hours digging a large hole several feet deep and concealing the bomb.

 

It was a familiar - and frustrating - problem.

 

"They are totally complacent with what's going on here," said Maj. Steve Lawson of Columbus, Ohio, who commands Lima Company.

 

"The average citizen in Haditha either wants a handout, or wants us to die or go away."

 

In a war where intelligence is the most valued asset, the Marines say few local people will divulge "actionable" information that could be used to locate insurgents.

 

Some Iraqis apparently fear reprisal attacks from militants. Many just want to stay out of the crossfire. Others hate the Americans enough to protect the insurgents: Marines say lookouts in cities would often launch flares as their vehicles approached.

 

In this region ruled by Sunni tribal loyalties, few voted for the new central Iraqi government, and many suspect the U.S. military is punishing them and empowering their longtime rivals, the Shiites of the south and the Kurds of the north.

 

"From a squad leader's perspective, the intelligence never helped me accomplish my mission," said Sgt. Don Owens, a squad leader in Lima Company from Cincinnati, who fought alongside the 1st Squad throughout their tour.

 

"Their intelligence is better than ours," Owens said.

 

*********************************************

 

The first night after the attack, Williams couldn't sleep. He stayed near his radio, listening to the heavy sobbing of fellow Marines that punctured the night around him.

 

He thought of his best friend, Lance Cpl. Aaron Reed, a 21-year-old with a goofy demeanor and a perpetual smile, now dead.

 

A world without his second family had begun. The young men Williams had planned to meet up with again, back in the States, had vanished in a matter of minutes. He was alone.

 

Yet from a military standpoint, it was important to press on to show the enemy that even their best hits couldn't stop the world's most powerful military. The Marines were ordered away from the blast site, to hunt insurgents, just one hour after the explosion.

 

They stayed out for another week, searching through dozens of homes in the nearby city of Parwana and struggling to piece together intelligence about who had planted the bomb.

 

"I pushed them back out the door to finish the mission," said Lawson. "They did it, but they were crying as they pushed on."

 

As word spread back in the United States that 14 men had been killed, the Marines on the ongoing mission couldn't even, at first, contact their families to let them know they had survived.

 

*************************************************

 

Marine commanders say the large-scale raids in western Anbar province have kept the insurgency off-balance, killing hundreds of militants and leaving a dwindling number of insurgent bases in the area.

 

They say the sweeps are critical to beat back the insurgent presence in larger cities such as Ramadi and Baghdad, where suicide bombings have been rampant.

 

But, among some Marines and even officers, there are doubts whether progress has been made.

 

The insurgents lurk nearby - capable of launching mortars and suicide car bombs and quietly re-entering cities soon after the Marines return to their bases on the outskirts.

 

"We've been here almost seven months and we don't control" the cities, said Gunnery Sgt. Ralph Perrine, an operations chief in the battalion from Brunswick, Ohio. "It's no secret."

 

Even commanders acknowledge that with the limited number of U.S. and Iraqi troops in the region, the mission is focused on "disrupting and interdicting" the insurgency - that is, keeping them on the run - and not controlling the cities.

 

"It's maintenance work," said Col. Stephen W. Davis, commander of all Marine operations in western Anbar. "Because this out here is where the fight is, while the success is happening downtown while the constitution is being written and while the referendum is getting worked out. ... If I could bring every insurgent in the world out here and fight them all day long, we've done our job." [Blather blather blather bullshit bullshit bullshit. The Col. is spewing out his own version of "Bring Em On," as he stands on the heaps of dead Marines thumping his manly chest. And after reporting this inane crap with a straight face, the reporter has the gall to characterize what Marine Williams says next as "personal" and "visceral." Anybody with an IQ of 25 knows the cities are lost to the occupation and the "constitution" is a piece of empty propaganda written at the U.S. Embassy. So, is the Col. terminally brain-dead, or just lying in his teeth, hoping somebody in the Pentagon will love his ass-kissing and reward him accordingly?

 

[Marine Williams, who speaks next, isn't "visceral," as the reporter condescendingly says. Marine Williams is calmly reporting the facts of war that Col. Stephen W. Davis is either is too blind or too frightened to admit to the reporter: that the war is bullshit, the resistance is winning, and the Bush regime is helpless to do anything about it, which means time to come home.]

 

For Williams, the calculation is much more visceral and personal.

 

"Personally, I don't think the sweeps help too much," he said quietly on a recent day, sitting in a room at the dam, crowded with Marines resting from a late mission the night before.

 

"You find some stuff and most of the bad guys get away. ... For as much energy as we put in them, I don't think the output is worth it," he said.

 

Williams, a Marine for three years, has decided not to re-enlist. [Mourning the loss of his brothers brought on because of what Toland said, who can blame Williams? Remember Toland? ".the operation was hastily planned and executed, with significant risks and little return"]

 

Instead, in these last days in Iraq, he thinks of home and fishing in the clear streams of Montana. He hopes to open a fishing and hunting gear shop once he returns and complete his bachelor's degree in wildlife biology. He looks forward to seeing his mother, his only surviving parent, and traveling to her native Thailand this fall.

 

He said his "best memory" will be the day he leaves Iraq. His only good memories, he said, are of his friends:

 

Of Dyer, 19, an avid rap music fan who would bop his head to Tupac Shakur. He played the viola in his high school orchestra and had planned to enroll in a finance honors program at Ohio State University.

 

Of Reed, his best friend. He was president of his high school class from Chillicothe, Ohio, and left behind a brother serving in Afghanistan.

 

Of Cifuentes, 25, from Oxford, Ohio. He was enrolled in graduate school in mathematics education and had been working as a substitute teacher when he was deployed.

 

"I think the most frustrating thing is there's no sense of accomplishment," Williams said. "You're biding your time and waiting. But then you lose your friends, and it's not even for their own country's freedom."

 

 

 

IRAQ WAR REPORTS

 

 

Task Force Liberty Soldier Killed By Mine

 

Oct. 1, 2005 MNF Release A051001c & Reuters

 

TIKRIT, Iraq -- A Task Force Liberty Soldier died of injuries sustained when a combat patrol struck a mine near the oil refining town of Bayji at about 12:00 p.m. Oct. 1.

 

 

Task Force Baghdad Soldier Killed By IED

 

Oct. 1, 2005 MNF Release A051001b

 

BAGHDAD, Iraq  A Task Force Baghdad Soldier was killed when a patrol struck an improvised explosive device at 8 a.m. Oct. 1 in central Baghdad

 

 

Best Friend, Brother,' Remembered

Oliver Brown, right, and Brandon Johnson, left, pose for a photo in 1996 after winning the Pennsylvania District 15 Little Leaque Championship. ... Photo provided

 

10.1.05 By LISA R. HOWELER, Times Reporter, Sayre Evening Times

 

ATHENS -- Oliver Brown and Brandon Johnson were like brothers.

 

From kindergarten on, they were inseparable.

 

They started in T-ball and went on to play together in Little League. Their team won the 9-to-10-year-old Pennsylvania District 15 Championship in 1996. They graduated together in 2004 from Athens Area High School.

 

They bicycled together. They both loved to hunt. Johnson held a "Hunt for a Cure" for Cystic Fibrosis for his senior project. He and Brown planned it together and traveled to Michigan to learn about the program from musician Ted Nugent, who they were able to meet.

 

The two were almost always outdoors, at the beach in Ocean City, or in the woods hunting and when they weren't outdoors, they were watching movies and eating pizza -- tons of pizza.

 

A blanket and pillow with Johnson's name on it sat in a laundry basket ready for him to use during the many nights he stayed at Brown's house. They planned to be each other's best man when they got married.

 

The two even signed up for the Army together. Last year, they trained for a deployment to Iraq in the Mojave Desert.

 

On Thursday, Brown was killed in an attack near Ramadi, Iraq.

 

It was one of the few times Johnson wasn't by Brown's side. It wouldn't be long before Johnson was with his friend again, guarding the damaged Bradley Fighting Vehicle Brown was in.

 

Johnson wouldn't find out until later his best friend had been killed in the attack.

 

Lisa and Robert Johnson poured over photos of their son and Oliver Brown Friday, left with the memory of a friendship and of a young man who always made them smile.

 

"Oliver always had a come back. We were never surprised when he pulled a joke on us," said Robert Johnson.

 

Friends called Brown "O" and Johnson "Bam," said Lisa Johnson with a small laugh.

 

Brandon's father Robert Johnson remembers when the two signed up for the National Guard.

 

"Oliver joined and Brandon said, 'I want to go with you.' They joined together because they didn't want to be alone. They even asked the recruiter to make sure they were placed in the same unit. The recruiter said he would try his best and he did a good job. They were in the same barracks, same boot camp."

 

The news of Brown's death Thursday "hit like a ton of bricks," said Johnson.

 

"It was like losing a son. One of Oliver's parents told us they didn't see Oliver without seeing Brandon."

 

The Johnsons spent Thursday wondering what the fate of their own son was. Only a week before he had been injured when a land mine had exploded near him.

 

He was thrown in the air, shrapnel landed on his head and he ended up out of work for two days.

 

"We don't sleep anyhow with Brandon over there, but we didn't sleep all night Thursday," his father said.

 

Brandon called early Friday morning. He was alive, he said.

 

"Physically he is OK," said Lisa Johnson Friday. "Emotionally he is a wreck. 'I lost my best friend. I lost my brother,' he told me."

 

"Now I have to find a new best man," Brandon Johnson told his father, unable to fully place his feelings into words.

 

"He was hurting so bad and we wanted so much to be there with him," said Robert Johnson. "We can't, but we want to hear from him every hour to know he's OK."

 

Brown's mother Sue Orchard and father Bob Brown were notified of their son's death by two National Guard officials Thursday, said Lisa Johnson. Brown also has a stepmother, Debbie Brown, and stepfather Joe Orchard.

 

Johnson is receiving counseling from the unit chaplains. His superiors are working to get him home for Brown's funeral, but can't promise him he will be granted leave, his parents said. A knock on the front door sends a wave of fear rushing through Lisa Johnson.

 

"I'm so afraid I will open the door and there will be two men from the military telling me my son is dead."

 

In Little League, Brown was a catcher and Johnson was a pitcher. Last week, Brown called his mother and asked her to send him his mitt so he and Johnson could play catch together. He asked his mom not to tell Johnson she was sending it. He wanted the gift from home to be a surprise.

 

Sue Orchard sent the mitt Thursday before she heard the news.

 

 

Bomb Killed 2 Wisconsin Soldiers, Wounded A 3rd

 

Sep 27, 2005 WBAY

 

Two Wisconsin soldiers from the 127th National Guard infantry unit were killed in Iraq, Action 2 News has learned. The three were traveling together when their vehicle hit a roadside bomb.

 

In addition to Andy Wallace of Oshkosh, the bomb killed Michael Wendling, 20, of Mayville. Jeremy Roskopf, also from Mayville, was wounded.

 

Wendling and Roskopft graduated together from Mayville High School in 2003.

 

 

Danish Soldier Killed, Three Wounded By A-Harta IED

 

10.1.05 AFP & Reuters

 

A Danish soldier was killed and three seriously wounded when a roadside bomb blew up near their patrol in Al-Harta in southern Iraq, the Danish defence ministry said, marking the second fatality for the Danish military.

 

 

Three U.S. Soldiers Wounded In Tikrit

 

10.1.05 AFP

 

Three U.S. soldiers were slightly hurt in a bomb explosion in Tikrit, central Iraq.

 

 

Who, Us?

No Thanks;

You And Him Fight

 

10.1.05 AFP

 

In western Iraq, US forces launched Operation Iron Fist "to root out Al-Qaeda in Iraq terrorists" in and around Sadah, near Al-Qaim in Al-Anbar province, the US military said.

 

The sweep also aimed to prevent "foreign fighters" from crossing over from Syria.

 

A defence ministry official said Iraqi forces were aware of the operation but not involved.

 

OCCUPATION ISN'T LIBERATION

BRING ALL THE TROOPS HOME NOW!

 

 

NOTES FROM A LOST WAR:

"This Is Not Your Usual Call To Prayer," Said Link.

"This Guy Was Angry," Said Larson. "Probably At Us"

Smoke from a mortar round rises as a Marine struggles to attach a tow chain to his humvee. Chronicle photo by Kim Komenich

 

 

October 1, 2005, By Anna Badkhen, San Francisco Chronicle Staff Writer

 

Outside Sada, Iraq:

 

The mortar rounds hit in the early morning. The first one, a harbinger of the assault to come, whooshed up from the sleepy border town of Sada at around 5:30 a.m. Friday, landing in a burst of sparks several hundred yards short of the sandstone cliffs where U.S. Marines were camped out.

 

The shell's trajectory left a momentary orange trace in the predawn sky, but the impact was almost inaudible, and most of the Marines slept right through it, wrapped in their sleeping bags in the foxholes they had dug in the hard-packed desert dust.

 

The second round landed closer, and the Marines felt the impact with the soles of their feet as it shook the ground.

 

The third hit closer yet, followed by several rockets and more mortar shells. The aim had become steadily more accurate, forcing the Marines to get into their armored humvees, withdraw from the cliffs overlooking Sada and move to a swath of parched wasteland farther from the town, about 7 miles east of the Syrian border.

 

"They were mortaring us good," said Sgt. Stephen Lybarger, a member of the 1st Mobile Assault Platoon, Weapons Company, 3rd Battalion, 6th Marine Regiment. "They were making good adjustments. I felt like a coward, leaving that hill."

 

As the 3rd Battalion prepared for an assault on insurgents holed up in five Iraqi towns on the border with Syria, the mortar and rocket attack suggested that the Marines are up against a well-armed and determined enemy.

 

"They were as good as our guys were," Lybarger said. "I wanted to kill them before they teach all the other guys how to do that." [Having spent years fighting a war with Iran, there are only about 20,000 other guys who already know how to do that.]

 

Lt. Col. Julian Alford, commander of the 3rd Battalion, 6th Marines, stationed outside the western Iraqi town of Qaim, said fighters linked to Abu Musab al-Zarqawi control Sada and four other towns in this western corner of Anbar province, including Qaim. [This Zarqawi bit is getting lame. Time go to back to "Saddam Hussein remnants"? How about Tasmanian devil dogs? Flesh eating cannibal fiends? The Pentagon needs some new script writers and fresh material.]

 

As Marines drove away from the cliffs, another mortar landed about 40 yards to the left of the armored humvee carrying Gunnery Sgt. Derrick Link and the vehicle's gunner, Cpl. Jeremy Anderson. The crack from the explosion rang in their ears.

 

"That one was close, gunny," Anderson called down from his turret as Pfc. Dale Fellows swerved the wheel hard.

 

"Yep," Link replied. Another mortar landed about 100 yards behind their truck.

 

"Another impact," Anderson remarked.

 

"Is that outgoing?" asked Link, distractedly, as he tried to speak to the battalion commanders on the humvee's radio.

 

"That's incoming, gunny," Anderson said.

 

"It's always from the left or the right of the blue mosque, that f -- ing area down there," he said.

 

After the humvees pulled out, U.S. helicopter gunships patrolled the skies over Sada. Within an hour, the pilots had located a house from which U.S. forces believed insurgents had lobbed the mortars and a car they said was packed with mortar rounds. The helicopters fired at the car and it exploded, the boom echoing over the town and into the wasteland where Link's humvee now stood.

 

An F/A-18 Hornet strike fighter, flying so high that it was invisible from the ground, dropped a 500-pound bomb known as Joint Direct Attack Munition, or JDAM, on the house, sending a plume of black smoke in the air. Several seconds later, there was a large cracking sound and the rumble of an explosion.

 

It was not immediately clear how much damage the bomb had caused or whether it had killed or injured any fighters or Iraqi civilians. [OK. How about later? Clear later? Or maybe best not to go there to find out?]

 

For the next several hours, the Marines sat in the baking desert sun, smoking and napping after a sleepless night in the desert. Fellows leaned his head against the armored window of his humvee, his mouth slightly open. Navy medic Michael Larson slept in the back seat, his head slightly bowed. Anderson also dozed off, standing up in his turret.

 

Link stood by his humvee smoking a cigar.

 

Sgt. Scott Wood stopped by on his way back from a patrol.

 

"How'd it go?" Link asked, sounding uninterested.

 

Wood shrugged: "F -- ing desert."

 

Shortly after midday, the muezzin in Sada began his elaborate, melodious call to Friday afternoon prayer, the most important prayer of the week.

 

After the call ended, a mullah took over, spewing words into the loudspeaker.

 

The Marines, who did not understand Arabic -- there was no translator on hand -- took notice of the mullah's enraged tone.

 

"This is not your usual call to prayer," said Link.

 

"This guy was angry," said Larson. "Probably at us."

 

 

 

AFGHANISTAN WAR REPORTS

 

 

U.S. Soldier Killed, Another Wounded Near Kandahar

 

October 1, 2005 The Associated Press

 

KABUL, Afghanistan -- A U.S. soldier and an Afghan soldier have been killed in an attack in southern Afghanistan, the U.S. military said Saturday.

 

The small-arms and rocket-propelled grenade attack on Friday also wounded another U.S. soldier and two Afghan National Army troops during combat operations north of the city of Kandahar, the military said.

 

The three wounded soldiers were taken to a nearby forward operating base for treatment.

 

The American's death brought to 198 the number of U.S. service members killed in and around Afghanistan since the 2001.

 

 

 

TROOP NEWS

 

 

Americans Don't Support The War Anymore

 

63% said the troops should be partially or completely withdrawn, up 10 percentage points from August.

 

October 1, 2005 By Mark Mazzetti, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer

 

Among Americans, support for the war continues to dwindle, as growing numbers conclude that U.S. troops should be partially or completely withdrawn.

 

Only 32% of those surveyed for a CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll released last week approved of Bush's handling of Iraq, compared with 40% in August and 50% earlier this year.

 

And 63% said the troops should be partially or completely withdrawn, up 10 percentage points from August.

 

The survey also showed that 59% considered it a mistake to have sent U.S. forces to Iraq, up from fewer than half during the summer.

 

 

Just 21% of those surveyed believed U.S. forces would win the war, while 34% said they considered the conflict unwinnable.

 

 

The Generals Dither, Slither And Spin:

"Yes, We Should Leave Iraq, We're Just Making It Worse,

But No, We Shouldn't Leave Iraq;"

Pentagon Admits The Resistance Now Has "A Battle Tested Army"

 

[Thanks to CS, who sent this in.]

 

"There's a line between what constitutes casual dependence and what constitutes not being ready to fight," he said. "For the most part, (Iraqi troops) are not ready to do the job.

 

"And stepping back is just going to leave them vulnerable to a battle-tested army of insurgents."

 

October 1, 2005 By Mark Mazzetti, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer

 

WASHINGTON  The U.S. generals running the war in Iraq presented a new assessment of the military situation in public comments and sworn testimony this week:

 

The 149,000 U.S. troops currently in Iraq are increasingly part of the problem.

 

During a trip to Washington, the generals said the presence of U.S. forces was fueling the insurgency, fostering an undesirable dependency on American troops among the nascent Iraqi armed forces and energizing terrorists across the Middle East.

 

For all these reasons, they said, a gradual withdrawal of U.S. troops was imperative. American officials backtracked on their expectations of what the U.S. military can achieve in Iraq months ago.

 

But this week's comments showed that commanders believe a large U.S. force in Iraq might in fact be creating problems as well as solutions.

 

"This has been hinted at before, but it's a big shift for them to be saying that publicly," said Michael O'Hanlon of the Brookings Institution in Washington. "It means they recognize that there is a cost to staying just as there is a benefit to staying. And this has not really been factored in as a central part of the strategy before."

 

During his congressional testimony, Army Gen. George W. Casey, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, said that troop reductions were necessary to "take away one of the elements that fuels the insurgency, that of the coalition forces as an occupying force."

 

The same approach may prove helpful across the Middle East, commanders said. The Central Command's Gen. John P. Abizaid, who supervises all U.S. troops in the region, said the broader fight against Islamic extremism required the United States to "reduce our military footprint" across the region and push governments in the Middle East to fight the extremists themselves.

 

Although Abizaid advocates a troop reduction, he does not favor total withdrawal. He envisions such an exit preceded by the establishment of stable governments in Iraq and Afghanistan and accompanied by an assured flow of oil and enhanced regional security networks.

 

[What he's saying is that the troops stay until the resistance to the troops stops and the collaborator governments are "stable." Never happen. As long as the occupation troops are there, the resistance goes on. As for the collaborators having a stable government, that's just laughable. They're loathed by every Iraqi who wants independence from the U.S. Empire. Can Abiziad really be this stupid? Or are all these "plans" being announced merely more spin to try to damp down the growing anti-war sentiment at home and the growing demands from Washington politicians for "an exit strategy"? Three guesses.]

 

Even among themselves, military officials have differed in their assessments of the number of Iraqi troops ready to take on the mission.

 

During a briefing Friday, Casey was asked whether there were enough Iraqi troops in Tall Afar to permanently keep insurgents out of the western town, where U.S. and government forces recently launched a major offensive.

 

"We do have enough force," Casey said.

 

Yet the U.S. commander of the Tall Afar operation, Army Col. H.R. McMaster, said Sept. 13 that it would be some time before the town had enough trained Iraqi troops to keep insurgents from filtering back.

 

"Is there enough force here right now to secure this area permanently? No. Are there opportunities for the enemy in other areas within our region? Yes," McMaster said.

 

Military officials and others familiar with Casey's strategy in Iraq say the U.S. plans a phased withdrawal, first pulling its troops out of the 14 provinces that commanders believe are most secure.

 

Initially, they would maintain a presence in the predominantly Sunni provinces of central Iraq, where most of the violence is occurring and the U.S. military suffers most of its casualties. [How cheery for the troops. They get to stay and die.]

 

"Withdrawing from the secure areas would be a good signal to the rest of Iraqis that this is coming for them eventually," said a Central Command advisor who has traveled frequently to Iraq and requested anonymity because he was speaking about a classified strategy.

 

The advisor said that U.S. commanders were concerned that Iraqi troops could become too dependent on the American presence, but that there were no plans for a hasty pullout from the violent provinces before the Iraqis were up to the task.

 

"There's a line between what constitutes casual dependence and what constitutes not being ready to fight," he said. "For the most part,(Iraqi troops) are not ready to do the job.

 

"And stepping back is just going to leave them vulnerable to a battle-tested army of insurgents."

 

MORE:

 

Idiot General Casey Calls 500 Attacks A Week On U.S. Troops

"A Lagging Indicator Of Success"

Admits He Is Clueless About Resistance Reach And Power

 

[Thanks to Don Bacon, The Smedly Butler Society, who sent this gem in. . Not dated. Presumably from the same visit to DC discussed above.]

 

"Asked whether the insurgency has worsened, Casey said it has not expanded geographically or numerically, 'to the extent we can know that.'

 

But he noted that current "levels of violence are above norms,' exceeding 500 attacks a week.

 

'I'll tell you that levels of violence are a lagging indicator of success,' he added.

 

[He's just admitted he's clueless about whether the resistance has taken more territory, or has increased the size of their forces. You want any better markers for a lost war and a blind command hated by a whole nation? They can't find out shit. Nobody will tell them shit. They don't know shit. What an amazing admission. Almost as good as how the insurgents have "a battle tested army."]

 

 

"There Are People Dying Here"

A U.S Army bugler plays Taps during funeral services for Sgt. Jeremy M. Campbell, of Middlebury, Pa., Sept. 27, 2005 at Arlington National Cemetery. Campbell died on Sept. 11, 2005, in Baghdad, Iraq, where an improvised explosive device detonated near his Humvee during patrol operations. (AP Photo/Pablo Martinez Monsivais)

 

"They say 75 percent of the people die in their sleep, and here, the people all die when they are awake," said Captain Moore, 47, of Virginia. "They are young and awake, and I'm sure they'd want to die like John Wayne, with a bayonet in their hand, marching across a field, but it doesn't end up that way."

 

"Sometimes the dead soldiers are in body bags only this big," he said, holding his hands about a foot apart. "It's discouraging."

 

October 1, 2005 By JULIET MACUR, The New York Times Company

 

CAMP SPEICHER, Iraq - Specialist Ryan Firth leaned out the doorway of the idling Black Hawk helicopter, the thump, thump, thump of the blades above him drowning out all sound, and he grabbed the handles of the green stretcher being passed his way.

 

Atop that stretcher was a black vinyl body bag. Inside it were the remains of an American contractor killed just hours before in a suicide bombing in downtown Baquba, 35 miles northeast of Baghdad.

 

"That's when it hit me," Specialist Firth, 29, said the next day. "To feel the weight of one of your comrades, to lift the dead body of a fellow American, you can never prepare yourself for that."

 

For a moment, he fell silent. "It wakes you up to reality, you know?" he said as tears welled in his eyes. "There are people dying here."

 

This was the first time Specialist Firth, a helicopter technician for the Missouri National Guard, was conducting what the military calls a hero mission, which is the process of retrieving the body of an American soldier, or sometimes a dead contractor, from the battlefield. American soldiers in Iraq handle the bodies with ritual and respect, from almost the instant of death to the moment those bodies are loaded onto a cargo plane headed back home. They catalog the names and formally transport the personal belongings, determined to preserve as much dignity as possible for those killed.

 

Inside the chopper parked in front of Specialist Firth's at Camp Warhorse that day in August was the body of an American soldier who had died in the same attack as the contractor. More than 40 soldiers assembled to pay their last respects before the bodies were flown to a base in Balad, from which they would be shipped back to their families.

 

The First Battalion (General Support), 150th Aviation, made up mostly of soldiers from the Delaware and New Jersey National Guards, is based here at Camp Speicher, near Tikrit, and has been flying these missions since it arrived in Iraq in December, including a flurry in August - one of the war's bloodiest months for American soldiers - when 85 died.

 

(The American military reported 13 deaths of American troops in the week that ended Friday, with most killed in explosions when the vehicles they were riding in hit roadside bombs. That brought the number of American soldiers killed in Iraq and identified publicly to 1,928.)

 

The pilots and crew chiefs from the battalion, called the 1-150th, usually fly their Black Hawks about 900 hours a month in central Iraq, said Capt. Jonathan Lapidow, one of the unit's battle captains. They mainly shuttle soldiers from base to base, or escort generals or visiting entertainers like Jessica Simpson or Toby Keith. Sometimes, they fly combat air assaults to help units on the ground go after insurgents.

 

Whatever the mission, those pilots fly fast and low over palm groves, salt flats or fields dotted with goats, shepherds and mud huts, occasionally tossing Beanie Babies encased in protective Ziploc bags or red-white-and-blue soccer balls to Iraqi children below.

 

While they zip around, their radios may capture the sounds of firefights in which American soldiers are wounded or killed. Then, sometimes, the crews from the 1-150th end up recovering the bodies of those soldiers who died on the ground below them that day.

 

Those bodies are usually transported to the nearest base, and two Black Hawks from the 1-150th escort them from there.

 

"For some guys, the hero missions are too hard on them emotionally, so they say they don't want to do them anymore," said Captain Lapidow, 34, of Hillsborough, N.J. "But some guys, they just never turn one down."

 

Chief Warrant Officer Bruce Johnston, 52, a wiry man who wears thick, square glasses, flew 12 hero missions from June through August, and he tears up thinking about each one.

 

Most of the dead were killed in roadside bomb blasts, which are becoming even more dangerous because insurgents are lacing them with fuel to cause burns, Mr. Johnston said. But some of the soldiers transported by the 1-150th's pilots had died because of land-mine explosions and car bombs. One had committed suicide.

 

On one mission, Mr. Johnston's chopper and a second Black Hawk carried six dead American soldiers, which would have been an impossible fit if their bodies had not been so broken from the bomb blasts.

 

Black Hawk pilots on hero missions are given first priority to land at bases. Once on the ground, soldiers from the dead soldier's unit or base often escort each body from a Humvee or an ambulance to the helicopter, at times in the blackness of night, occasionally so soon after the incident that the soldiers who are escorting them are still bloody from the attack that killed their friend. <


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