May 12, 2006
Neo-CONNED News recently conducted an interview with Ibrahim Ebeid, an Editor with the Arab website, Al-Moharer.net.
The interesting site has frequently been the primary source of
statements from leading Iraqi government figures such as Saddam
Hussein, Tariq Aziz, and Taha Ramadan since their imprisonment. We took
the opportunity to seek his opinion on matters rarely discussed in the
mainstream media, whatever its political color, and to get his thoughts
as someone who speaks with some authority from the "other side of the
fence."
Ibrahim Ebeid, could you tell us something about your background?
I
was born in Palestine in 1935. I spent my childhood in the city of
Jaffa until May 1948 when we were forced to leave under the guns of the
Zionist gangs while Palestine was still under the British Mandate. I
have lived and seen the tragedy of Palestine folding. These bitter
events shaped my life and I became activist for the Palestinian cause
as the central focal point of the Arab struggle. I am an Arab
nationalist who believes in the liberation of historic Palestine from
the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea. I believe in the unification
of the Arab Nation and this must be achieved through continuous
struggle. I was a member of the PLO offices in New York at the United
Nations in the early Seventies.
You are involved with Al-Moharer
- which means what in English? What are the aims of the site; what role
do you play in it; and how influential do you think you are in the
English-speaking and Arabic-speaking worlds?
I joined Al-Moharer in 1997 and became the Co-Editor, in charge of the English Section.
Al-Moharer
means the "Liberator" or the "Editor"; both meanings are valid and
important. The English Section is dedicated to enlightening the world
about the justness of the Arab cause, and to clear up the distortion
that clouds the minds of too many people about our struggle against
Western Imperialism and Zionism. Al-Moharer is a Pan-Arab
weekly publication and it is read by a large audience in the Arab
Homeland and by Arabs who live across the World.
The most urgent
matter now for us is that of Palestine and Iraq where the
neo-cons and Zionists are launching a vicious criminal war against us
to erase our existence as a people and as a civilization.
Our
efforts are very humble. We are dedicated individuals and we are
volunteers, but the result is tremendous and rewarding. Many people,
educational institutions and organizations provide us with positive
feedback, whilst the enemies of humanity send us nasty letters. Our
readers are in the millions from around the World.
We have to
develop the English and French Sections. The Arabic one has the best
writers from every corner of the Arab World. Our articles are being
translated to several languages and being published on several websites
and in newspapers around the world.
There are a good
number of sites on the web which are against the Anglo-American
occupation of Iraq. What appears to distinguish you from most of them
is that you take a strongly pro-Ba'ath Party, pro-Saddam Hussein line.
Why is this?
As I mentioned before, Al-Moharer is a
Pan-Arab publication, most of the writers are Arab Nationalists, who
are committed to the principles of Liberation and Unity.
We feel
for the Baath, because the Baath is an Arab Nationalist movement which
considers the Arab people are one, and that the Arab countries
must be reunited in order to be free and independent. Here we meet and
we share the same principles.
The Arab homeland was divided and
ripped apart by the Western powers, mainly Britain and France after the
First World War, by the infamous Sykes-Picot Agreement. A few years
later the same Imperialist powers created the mini-Arab states and
Emirates and installed kings, Emirs and rulers that did not, and do
not, represent the people’s desire for freedom and independence. The
Arab Baath Party and Saddam Hussein, when they were in power in Iraq,
represented all the ambitions and hopes of the Arab Nation for Freedom,
Unity and Social Justice. For this genuine reason we support them.
Iraq
now is occupied and we feel that Iraqis have the legitimate right to
resist the occupation. The Baath Party is the leader of the Resistance
that will liberate it from the Anglo-Saxon Zionist occupation. We feel
that the liberation of Iraq will be achieved very soon and a very
progressive leadership will be born that will lead the Arabs to
liberate historic Palestine. As a result Arab Unity will be closer to
being realized.
Yes indeed we support Saddam Hussein because he
is the legitimate President. He is a prisoner of war and those who are
living in four square miles - the so-called "Green Zone" - are both
traitors and illegitimate because they are the puppets and agents of
the occupiers. In no way do they represent the people of Iraq or our
ambitions...
Saddam Hussein represents the hope for freedom,
unity and liberation. He is a firm believer in the liberation of
Palestine, and, therefore, he deserves our support.
But
as a Catholic, surely you believe that the Ba'ath Party, under Saddam
in particular, was virulently anti-Christian? Surely you are not
suggesting that most/all of the accusations of an anti-Christian bias
are without foundation? If you are saying so, what proof to the
contrary would you offer not only to fellow Catholics and Christians,
but to those people who are anti-war but who seem to believe most of
the media's accusations against Saddam?
The Baath Party
is a secular pan Arab party and the founder of the Party, Michel Aflaq,
was a Christian. It is the party of every Arab. It has members who are
Christians, Muslims, Druze, seculars and atheists. Freedom of religion
and worship is guaranteed and respected. The Christians were always and
still are part of the fabric of society in the Arab World as well as in
Iraq.
New Christian churches were built and many were renovated
under the Baath and Saddam in Iraq. Tariq Aziz, a Roman Catholic, among
many Christians in Iraq enjoyed a high position in the Party and in the
government. He is a member of the National Leadership of the party, a
member of the Iraqi leadership. He was Minister of Foreign Affairs and
he is still the legitimate Deputy Prime Minister of Iraq, and a Member
of the Revolutionary Council.
Alas now, no Christians and no
Muslims are safe in Iraq, under the occupation because Bush and Blair
destroyed Iraq and brought sectarian parties with them to terrorize all
Iraqis regardless to their religion. These sectarians are killing
Muslims and Christians. Liquor store keepers are being assassinated.
Barbers are being killed for shaving beards. Women cannot walk the
streets alone and without a head cover of some sort. Mosques and
Churches are being attacked and blown up. These things did not happen
before under Saddam Hussein. Saddam is a builder and not a destroyer.
An
Iraqi Bishop related to our correspondent that Iraqi Christians belong
to one of the oldest Christian communities in the world and lived for
hundreds of years with their fellow Iraqis with no problems
whatsoever... When the Zionist sponsored Kurdish Ephemera - militia
bandits and gangsters in truth - emptied Iraqi Christian villages
in the north, they raped, kidnapped, killed and persecuted thousands of
Christians, changing even their millennia old churches into cow sheds
and pigsties. The survivors were forced to quit their homes. However,
the Baath leadership and Saddam Hussein were there to provide help, and
to welcome the suffering Iraqi Christians either in Mosul or in Baghdad
and offered the necessary compensations.
The Iraqi religious
authority known by his initials A.B.H. indicated that the Zionist
Mossad has provided the puppet US-Iranian trained Iraqi police force,
with the necessary remote controlled explosive devices to target Iraqi
Christian Churches and sow chaos and intensify civil strife in martyr
Iraq.
Sister Mary, an Iraqi Roman Catholic nun, told the Iraqi
League 'When the criminal US forces of occupation entered Mosul, our
Muslim neighbors ran to protect the Monastery, and assured us that they
would protect everyone as long as they lived. This wonderful gesture
had the greatest impact on all of us, and gave us great comfort and
happiness in these difficult and hard times’.
Sister Mary also
attacked vigorously those who are working tirelessly for the promotion
of sectarianism and ethnic violence. She said 'we have never known
these ugly labels, and it is certainly foreign to our culture and our
beloved Iraqi society. Iraq is well known for the brotherhood and
mutual forgiveness amongst its people over its history. There is no
doubt that there are sick people who are conniving, plotting and
brainwashing people to push them into committing acts of utter
stupidity which are foreign to the well-known character and personality
of Iraqis’.
As a Christian Arab who lived part of his life in
Palestine and in Iraq, I never was treated like a detested minority. By
the way the Christians are not minority, since they belong to the
majority of the people because they are Arabs by blood, by identity and
by culture.
Jubla Ibn Al Ayham, who was a Christian King in
Palestine under the Romans, helped the Arab Muslim Armies, to liberate
Jerusalem from the Roman occupation.
Issa Ibn Al-Awam, the
Commander of the Christian Brigade under Saladin, was the first to
enter Jerusalem when it was liberated from the Crusaders.
Under Saddam the Christians held high ranks in the State and its Institutions.
What
is your opinion of the Iraqi Resistance? Do you think that it has a
viable future - ie that it can oust the US from the country - or do you
think that it will eventually burn itself out?
My
opinion is very clear: the Resistance is legitimate and those who are
part of the occupational political process are traitors and enemies of
the Iraqi people. They should be treated as such.
No liberation
movement ever failed to achieve its aim of liberating its occupied
country. Iraq is occupied and the Iraqi National Resistance is well
organized as we can see on the battlefield. It was organized and formed
before the occupation and now it pours its burning flames on the
occupiers and their agents. The stooge government only exists in the so
called Green Zone, only in four square miles of Baghdad. They do not
dare to walk out of this zone.
The occupation Generals and the
Imperialist representative, Zalmay Khalilzad, are cornered in this
"Green Zone" and they cannot expand beyond this zone. The Resistance
controls most of Iraq. Day by day it gains strength and more support.
If you read its program you will see its seriousness. Its aims are very
clear: the destruction of the sectarian illegal government, firstly,
then the expulsion of the occupier. At the same time it is inflicting
heavy casualties on the Anglo-Saxon forces and their allies.
Burning
itself out? No. The Resistance is depending on the Iraqi people and on
their support. The occupiers are destroying Iraq and terrorizing its
people. Iraq was occupied before. It was invaded by the British in the
Twenties but eventually they were defeated and expelled. I am sure that
the same fate is awaiting the present Anglo-Saxon forces and their
racist sectarian stooges.
By invading and occupying Iraq the
Americans were looking for profits and profits they did not reap. The
oil they did not get and they cannot pump it steadily. The
Resistance keeps blowing up the pipelines, pump stations and other
facilities. They cannot keep loosing money without any profit.
Therefore they will be forced to withdraw. The American casualty rate
already is very high and the troops are now desperate and demoralized.
Most mainstream media analysts argue that the Resistance is a purely Sunni phenomenon. Do you believe this? If not, why not?
The
main stream media is very biased. It is part of the occupation forces
and mostly ignorant of Iraq and its people. The media correspondents
are spoon-fed by the Generals of the "Green Zone". They report only
what is said to them and what suits the interests of the occupation.
They do not see the battles; they do not talk to the people.
Not
only Sunni Arabs are part of the Resistance. The Resistance is made of
all parts of the Iraqi nation. It has Arabs, Kurds, Christians, Muslim
Shias and Muslim Sunnis. It is made up of the legitimate Iraqi Army,
Republican Guards, Baath Party, Saddam Fedayeen, Arab Nationalists and
Islamists.
It is not true that the Resistance only exists in
the "Sunni Triangle". It is in the North, in the Center, in the South,
in the East and West. In every city and in every part of Iraq and it is
growing. You have published an article in your books, Neo-CONNED,
by Mr. Baghdadi a Shia Muslim from Iraq in which he states that 60% of
the Baath party was Shia Muslim and likewise in the Iraqi Armed Forces.
These people are part of the Resistance. Those who are part of the
sectarian parties are either of Iranian origin or are pro-Iran and
pro-occupation.
For example: Ibrahim Al-Jaafari claims to
be originally from Oshahijer in Arabia but in reality he is of
Pakistani origin. His mother is Iranian. He used to speak against the
Great Satan, the United States, and then he became a strong ally of the
Great Satan. Iran installed him as the head of the Dawa Party, a
pro-Iran sectarian terrorist organization.
Mohammad Baqir
Al-Hakim and Aziz Al-Hakim, the heads of the Supreme Council for
Islamic Revolution in Iraq (SCIRI), are both Iranians from the city of
Yazd. They were living in Iran and there they formed the infamous Badr
Brigade whose role was to guard the Iraqi prisoners of War during the
war with Iran. After shooting their prisoners they buried them.
Their commanders were Iranians and they came to Iraq with the occupying
forces. Later they joined the Iraqi Army of the occupation so as to
strengthen their position. Bayan Jabir, the puppet Minister of the
Interior, the head of the assassination squads and head of the torture
prisons in Iraq, is an Iranian from the city of Al-Lar. His real name
is Baqir Solagh.
Moqtada Al-Sadr is an unusual figure in
contemporary Iraq. On the one hand he is anti-occupation,
pro-Resistance and shi'ite, whilst on the other hand he is
anti-Ba'athist. Do you have any thoughts or insights on the man and his
possible future importance in the direction of Iraq?
Unfortunately
Moqtada Al-Sadr is an inexperienced young man. He is a tangle of
self-interested causes that he cannot harmonize because he has trapped
himself within the occupational political process. The other sectarian
parties will not let him compete with other leaders like Al- Sistani,
who is Iranian citizen and serving the interest of Iran and the
Anglo-American Zionist occupation. Mr. Sadr claims to be against the
occupation and pro-Resistance. If this is so, then why is he against
the Baath that forms most of the Resistance and leads it? And why
is he part of the political process which was created by the occupation
and controlled by Washington? If Moqtada Al-Sadr is really
sincere, then he should reject everything that the occupation offers
and join the Iraqi National Resistance by faith and deed. Action speaks
louder than words. Just recently he said: if Iran was attacked by the
United States, then he will order his Mahdi Army to attack American
forces in Iraq. Doesn’t he realize that Iraq is occupied by the United
States? Then why he doesn’t fight the Anglo-American occupying forces
in Iraq? Is his allegiance pro-Iran and or pro-Iraq? The other day the
US and the sectarian militia that forms the "Iraqi" gangster army
killed several members of his army in a mosque in Baghdad, in his
neighborhood. I hope that Mr. Al-Sadr will wake up one day soon and
join the Resistance that he claims to support.
His future in
Iraq will depend upon his choices in relation to the Resistance’s
Political Program. Those who are fighting against the occupation will
have the right to form the government of Liberated Iraq. Those who
became part of the political process will be washed away with the
occupation.
President Hussein said recently during a
session of the American-government sponsored show trial in Baghdad that
he was the only person - along with the Ba'ath - who could bring peace
to the country again. Is this a sign that he is losing touch with
reality, or is it a sign that he knows the reality better from inside a
prison than those who claim to be running the country from the outside?
President
Hussein here speaks as the legitimate President of Iraq and as the
Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces - which is now the Iraqi
National Resistance. He has stated many times from his prison cell that
Iraq will be liberated with him or without him, whether or not he is
killed by the stooges of the Occupation Forces or its "court." Yes, he
is able to restore peace, security and progress to Iraq along with the
Baath party and with the other organizations in the Resistance and
certainly not by those sectarians who live in the "Green Zone" under
that protection of some 200,000 foreign troops. The stooges and the
Occupation forces have failed to restore vital services to Iraq, things
like water, electricity and other essential services. Saddam Hussein
restored all the services, including electricity and water, in just six
months, after the war with Iran ended. President Saddam Hussein knows
Iraq and the Iraqi people much better than those who came under cover
of Anglo-Saxon weapons. He is a son of Iraq and a proud Arab,
while the stooges are foreigners who do not care about Iraq and its
people. They are interested only in filling their bank accounts with
Iraq’s stolen wealth. Saddam built Iraq before and the stooges ruined
it. Certainly he is capable of rebuilding Iraq and restoring its
institutions in a short period of time following liberation.
What do you think people should be doing in light of all you've said before?
We hope that people who believe in the cause of liberation will send their articles to Al-Moharer to be considered for publication if these articles meet our standard.
But
for the support of the Iraqi people we hope that the Anti-War Movements
and Human Rights Organizations would lend their full support to the
liberation movement of Iraq, and show their unqualified support for the
legitimate leadership of Iraq and the Baath Party since it is these
that lead the struggle.
I may add, too, that the Anti-War
movement must support the Palestinian struggle without reservation and
they must realize that Palestine is Arab. It belongs to the Arab people
and the Palestinians have the right to liberate all of Palestine and
build their state according to their own wishes and designs.